1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:07,480 In this episode... 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,119 ...we've got a Doctor who thinks he's a Smith... 3 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:12,919 He just wants to work 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,239 at the Unified National Insurance... Team. 5 00:00:16,240 --> 00:00:17,959 Oh, look at that. He's remembered it. 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:19,799 Nice one! Come on! 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,439 Don't know if I have! Spot the professional. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,719 I don't know if I have. 9 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,359 ...we've got not one, but two Ranis... 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,799 I just thought, "It's Doctor Who. 11 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,759 "It's the Rani. It's Anita Dobson." 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,879 I had three words in my head - 13 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:34,919 "Yes, yes, yes!" 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,079 ...we've got ducks... 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,439 ...an owl, 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,719 and a horse... 17 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,479 TRICKLING ...with a weak bladder. 18 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,039 LAUGHTER 19 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,479 And spoiler alert! 20 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:49,239 We've got an exclusive clip from the series finale. 21 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,520 Welcome to John Smith: Unleashed. 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,719 This is it, then. 23 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,359 The beginning of the end of Season Two of Doctor Who. 24 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:07,679 No, no, no, no, no, no! 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,559 What are you even talking about?! 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,679 And we're here to lift the lid on Episode Seven, 27 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:13,959 Wish World - 28 00:01:13,960 --> 00:01:18,559 the first of a two-part finale brimming with elaborate sets, 29 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,279 multiple locations, an ensemble cast 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,079 and mind-bending VFX. 31 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,359 Rani-i-i-i! 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,119 Are you ready to take the plunge? 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,120 THE DOCTOR SCREAMS 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,759 Welcome to Wish World, 35 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,399 a parallel universe conjured by the imagination 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,999 of conspiracy theorist Conrad Clark, 37 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,519 last seen being sprung from jail by Mrs Flood 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,439 at the end of the episode Lucky Day. 39 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,599 Who are you? 40 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,120 Oh, I'm the governor... 41 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,120 ...and it's your lucky day. 42 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,399 But what exactly is this dystopian alternate reality? 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,759 It's a partly-remembered 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,999 and a partly-invented world. It's all from Conrad's mind. 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,039 Happy morning, everyone. 46 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,679 He's desperately inventing a whole world. 47 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,919 So he's imagined very simple templates. 48 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:11,679 He's just... He's put everyone into couples. 49 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,119 And you're John Smith's wife. I certainly am. 50 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,199 And women who don't quite fit into those couples 51 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,399 don't quite fit into the world. 52 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:18,959 They have no role. They're alone. 53 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,479 They're considered to be a bit strange. 54 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,119 But he thinks it's natural. He thinks it's normal. 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,239 He's not from that good a home himself, 56 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,679 so he's trying to imagine a better home. 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,599 Morning, darling. Morning, sweetheart. 58 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,079 John Smith and Belinda, 59 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,199 they're married and they have a child together. 60 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,119 Having been bezzie mates with Belinda 61 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,999 for the past six episodes, 62 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,799 it was a weird transition, 63 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,399 but, um... fun. 64 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,599 Me and V thought it was very funny... 65 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:50,119 ..that we were waking up in bed beside each other! 66 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,319 Did you see a cat? Meow! 67 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,759 Is that you wanting a cat? Yeah. 68 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:55,799 Yeah! Yeah! 69 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,599 It's like playing house with your best friend. 70 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,599 Seeing Ncuti be like 71 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,679 a dad figure was very different 72 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,959 to how I know Ncuti to be in real life. 73 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,039 Like, neither of us are grown up in any way. 74 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,879 In real life, we're like kids, 75 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,159 so it's just very funny to see us both 76 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,999 kind of switch into, like, parent mode. 77 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,599 I-is it OK out there? 78 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,279 Is it working? 79 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,839 It's all hanging on by a thread, it's not real 80 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,479 and it's desperately rattling at the edges. 81 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:24,519 And that is the point, 82 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,679 as you discover, at the end of the episode, 83 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,239 that's actually the Rani wanting to create a reality 84 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:33,319 that wears thin, that starts to fall apart - 85 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,679 that that's her plan to break the world apart 86 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,440 and to reach the world underneath. 87 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,439 So let's take you even further behind the scenes of Wish World, 88 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,920 a world in which the Doctor is now plain old John Smith. 89 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,599 Today is 11th April 2024, 90 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,319 and what's being filmed just behind me 91 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,879 is the scene where John Smith walks in to work. 92 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:00,919 Cutting it fine. 93 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,319 Another two minutes and you'd have been late. 94 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,999 I did work late last night. 95 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,999 Time carries no favours. 96 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,479 I enjoyed watching you being John Smith. 97 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,599 Dear John. Dear John. Yeah. 98 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,479 I enjoyed watching you strolling into that room 99 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,759 in your very sharp suit 100 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,919 and encompassing a different part of the character. 101 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,879 I thought it was really fun. Did you enjoy that? 102 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Yeah, I did. Cos it was just so different. 103 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,359 And he's just so normal and so human 104 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,479 and has got no intention of saving the universe. 105 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,519 He just wants to work at the... 106 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,039 ...Unified National Insurance... Team. 107 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,959 Oh, look at that! He's remembered it. 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,759 Nice one! Come on! 109 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,639 I don't know if I have! Spot the professional. 110 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,199 I don't know if I have. 111 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,079 PHONE RINGS 112 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,199 Happy morning. 113 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,079 Unified National Insurance Team. 114 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,119 How can I help? 115 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,879 It was a lot to get my head around, 116 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,079 cos you get so used to the character of the Doctor, 117 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,199 who just walks into rooms and decides to take charge. 118 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,239 Yeah. 119 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,639 And John is so the antithesis of that, 120 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,119 that it was a nice challenge. 121 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,759 Yeah? Yeah. 122 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,479 Would you be good, nine to five? 123 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,759 No. In an office? 124 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,679 No, I wouldn't be good. But I do enjoy it, though. 125 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,319 When... I loved when I was temping. 126 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,359 Yeah, yeah. 127 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,479 I found having an Excel spreadsheet 128 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,039 in front of me the most exciting thing. 129 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,319 You an Excel guy? Yeah. 130 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,239 A spreadsheet... A spreadsheets man, Ncuti? 131 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,639 I-I've worked in many a receptionist's office 132 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,919 and, yeah, loved it. Yeah. 133 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,159 It was so much fun! 134 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,959 Nothing ever got entered into it. 135 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,599 No. Productivity was low. Productivity was very low. 136 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,319 But... you were having a great time. 137 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,799 But I was happy to be there. Yeah. 138 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,320 You could see that channelled in your John Smith. 139 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,599 The old cliche says never work with children or animals. 140 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,559 So what did Russell write into the opening scene 141 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,079 of this episode? 142 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,399 A baby. And... 143 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,639 Animals. Lots of animals. 144 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,559 QUACKING 145 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,280 We had a day with ducks. 146 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,279 And we had an owl. 147 00:06:00,280 --> 00:06:02,240 We're about to have a right hoot on set. 148 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,199 And we had a horse. 149 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,919 TRICKLING 150 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,640 LAUGHTER 151 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,639 Well, apart from the horse micturating 152 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,639 in the middle of the take, it was fantastic. 153 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,759 I happily write "six ducks", 154 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,399 knowing I won't be there on that day. 155 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,959 Knowing it's going to be chaos and a nightmare. 156 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,639 There was probably a duck wrangler. 157 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:25,759 Was there a duck wrangler? 158 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,039 There was a duck wrangler, I knew it. 159 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,200 One, two, three. 160 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,639 I wonder, is there any way to spread them out? 161 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,440 I'll try. Just give me a minute. 162 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,599 It went fine. It went absolutely fine. 163 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,399 Never want to film with ducks again. 164 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,719 OK. We'll cut. Thank you. 165 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,199 And if you thought that was quackers... 166 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,639 Hello, boys! 167 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,919 ...added to the mix were six young children, 168 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,759 the aforementioned baby 169 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,119 and its stunt double. 170 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,599 Come on, then. Back to your Winnebago. 171 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,559 But what nobody ever tells you 172 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,599 is there are worse things to work with 173 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,120 than animals and children. 174 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,960 TENSE STRING MUSIC BUILDS 175 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,519 There are about 500 million midges. 176 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,759 All the midges in Wales have come here 177 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,839 and they're around my head. 178 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,759 And it's really, really annoying. 179 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,040 Bugs are eating us alive. 180 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,919 Join the dots. I'm just itching, basically. 181 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,399 They love our curls. They love our curls. 182 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,599 Unfortunately. So, yeah, they're sticking to us. 183 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,799 Shake around a bit, you'll see loads come off. 184 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,639 Yeah, I'm in disguise, hiding from the midges. 185 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,920 HE LAUGHS 186 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:40,439 You should see Ralph, actually, 187 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,599 cos he's got bites all over his face. 188 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,759 Oh, my God, you've got so many bites on your face. 189 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,439 Brilliant. Oh, my goodness. Have I? Don't think so. 190 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Think I've got one crawling on my nose now. 191 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,159 Er, not quite entertaining as I thought it would be. 192 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,719 Um, this isn't what I signed up for. 193 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,040 These little flies... 194 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,720 ...are from the pits of hell. 195 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,160 Let battle begin. 196 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,319 Right, then. 197 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:13,959 In the last episode of Unleashed, 198 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,319 we promised there'd be more on the bombshell reveal 199 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,679 that Mrs Flood was one half of a bi-generated foe 200 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,079 not seen on our screens in decades. 201 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,519 Our name is the Rani. 202 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,639 Although she's become A Rani, 203 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,560 while I'm THE Rani. 204 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:36,479 This is the arrival of Archie Panjabi as the Rani. 205 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,839 The Rani in the old days was played by 206 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,119 a fantastic actor called Kate O'Mara. 207 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,599 Seal it and label it. 208 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,679 Really phenomenal actor. 209 00:08:44,680 --> 00:08:46,399 This is dedicated to her, in a way, 210 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:47,679 because she was wonderful 211 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:49,639 and created a villain all those years ago 212 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,919 that has lasted in Doctor Who legacy ever since. 213 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,639 You know, she's a great part of the show. 214 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,519 It's amazing that the Rani hasn't been on screen 215 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:56,559 for a million years. 216 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:58,400 Well, well, well. 217 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,279 The Rani. 218 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,039 You were expecting to see the Master? 219 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,959 First appearing in The Mark Of The Rani back in 1985, 220 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,999 opposite Colin Baker's Sixth Doctor... 221 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,279 I think I've got it. 222 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,559 You're extracting a chemical from the brain. 223 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:15,359 ...the renegade Time Lady 224 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,959 returned in 1987's Time And The Rani, 225 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,639 in Seventh Doctor Sylvester McCoy's debut episode. 226 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:22,799 The Rani! 227 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,079 Stay back! 228 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,079 Since then, the character has appeared 229 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,559 in audio dramas, novels and comics, 230 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:33,799 but, aside from a brief appearance in 1993, not on TV. 231 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,839 So why now? 232 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,519 That was a villain that I really wanted to face, 233 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,479 and I'd asked Russell. Oh, had you? 234 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,999 You'd asked him? Yes. 235 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,639 She's so, like, fabulous. Yeah. 236 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,159 I want to... I want a face-off with her. 237 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,239 Time Lord v Time Lord. Like, how cool. 238 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,799 Oh, yes, Doctor... 239 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,759 I've always liked the Rani 240 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,679 and I've always thought I'd bring her back somehow. 241 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:55,079 But that was like a request. 242 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,919 When your lead actor requests something, 243 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,920 I'm here to obey. 244 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,319 Stepping into the iconic red suit and black boots this time around 245 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,879 is Emmy Award-winning actor and star of The Good Wife, 246 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,839 Shetland and Bend It Like Beckham, 247 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,759 Archie Panjabi. 248 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,039 So how did it happen, then, Archie? 249 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,639 How are you sat here as a very famous 250 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,719 Doctor Who character, back reincarnated as the Rani? 251 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,839 I was just sitting at my desk one day, 252 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,399 and then I got a message, saying, 253 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,079 would you like to be in Doctor Who? 254 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,159 I thought, "Ooh, that could be interesting, 255 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,919 "but what's the character?" Yeah. 256 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,119 And they said, "The Rani." 257 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,199 And I thought, "Wow! Oh, wow!" 258 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,879 And the Rani obviously means queen, 259 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:35,919 and all I could think about... 260 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,119 Honestly, the first reaction was 261 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,439 my entire Indian community would be so over the moon, 262 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,039 because the Rani is queen 263 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,239 and I'm married to Raj. Yeah. 264 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,039 The king. So I thought that would be lovely. 265 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,679 And I just thought, "It's Doctor Who. 266 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:51,079 "It's the Rani. It's Anita Dobson." 267 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,759 I had three words in my head - 268 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,559 "Yes, yes, yes!" 269 00:10:54,560 --> 00:10:55,719 And what's it been... 270 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,879 Has it sort of lived up to your expectations? 271 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,119 It's superseded it. Has it? 272 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,839 I mean, look at this. This is my palace. 273 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,759 Our palace. 274 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Yes, ma'am. Yeah. 275 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,800 ALL LAUGH 276 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,119 Archie Panjabi is amazing. 277 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,279 I mean, the charisma 278 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,199 and the presence that she holds in the room. 279 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,239 And she's so, so lovely. She's so cool. 280 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:20,519 SHE SNAPS FINGERS 281 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,079 Nice of you to join us, Doctor. 282 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,279 Like, when I was younger, there weren't 283 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,959 a lot of South Asian actors on screen, 284 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,519 and she was one of them. 285 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:29,719 And I always looked up to her. 286 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:34,720 I thought she was stunning and sassy and smart. 287 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,799 The Rani's relationship with Mrs Flood is quite funny, 288 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,039 cos they're both the Rani 289 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,879 and she considers herself 290 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,519 a lot more superior to Mrs Flood 291 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,239 and treats her very badly. 292 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,359 It's very... It's not very nice. 293 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,159 Sandwich, obviously. 294 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:51,679 But it does also make you laugh... 295 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:53,319 Oh. Right. 296 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,759 ...cos they're both so funny when they're together. 297 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,119 Yous two go everywhere together now. 298 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,199 Is this a new thing? Yes. 299 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,599 It's sort of happening, isn't it, slowly? 300 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,159 We feel like we've known each other for... 301 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,439 ...ever. ...ever. 302 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,239 It's very strange. Yeah. 303 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,199 Cos this afternoon, you're filming the bit where... 304 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:08,279 We moved the same. 305 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,959 Did you see that? Yeah. 306 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,079 Yeah. We even say things at the same time. 307 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,279 Finish each other's sentences. 308 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,479 Yes, we do, don't we? Yeah. Yeah. 309 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,839 I was so excited. I couldn't wait to meet her 310 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,399 and then I suddenly panicked and thought, 311 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,119 "What if we don't click? What if there's no magic?" 312 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,439 And then she walked onto the set 313 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:24,879 and it was like... SHE SNAPS FINGERS 314 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,399 ...there it was. Yeah. 315 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,800 It could be said that you sprang from my loins. 316 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,600 That's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. 317 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,799 Every Doctor Who set has its challenges, 318 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,959 be it a retro Unit set, 319 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,119 a peasant cabin in the Bavarian woods, 320 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,999 or a palace made of bones, 321 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,959 although none of those were the most challenging in this episode. 322 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,279 That accolade goes to this set. 323 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,519 We are in central Cardiff 324 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,119 and we have created the Camp of the Dispossessed, 325 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,599 which is an area where everyone with a disability, 326 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,999 he kind of has sort of forgotten about 327 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,879 and they get sort of placed in this place. 328 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,599 So obviously because of the storyline, 329 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:11,639 all our supporting artists, 330 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,599 they're all people with visible and non-visible disability, 331 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,679 So we... Another reason why we selected this location 332 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:19,959 is obviously because it's fully accessible and workable 333 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,119 for people with all their different specific needs and requirements. 334 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,039 So it's been a really interesting challenge, 335 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,239 trying to make a location that's sort of... 336 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,639 That's not just serviceable for a standard film crew, 337 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,039 but also for people who've got 338 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:32,839 slightly more specific needs and requirements. 339 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,439 Morning, Winnie, love. Another day in Paradise. 340 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,199 So I am what they call an access coordinator. 341 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,959 So it's my responsibility to work with the production 342 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,319 as a whole to make sure any cast or crew 343 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,319 or production team member 344 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,119 who's deaf, disabled or neurodivergent, 345 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,959 work with them and put any access requirements in place. 346 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,919 And that could be anything from a ramp to the front door 347 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,559 to a quiet room in the production office. 348 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,599 It's all about making the entire process 349 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,719 accessible to people who are disabled. 350 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,199 I am crowd AD-ing and also SA-ing 351 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,199 because, er... I'm a crew member with disability. 352 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,079 So they asked me to help out with all the SAs. 353 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,719 As well as acting as well. 354 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,679 They clearly heard the words "camp" and "disabled" 355 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,399 and thought, "Let's call Ben." HE LAUGHS 356 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,559 You know what? Having an access coordinator on set 357 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,559 makes everything so much easier. 358 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,039 All of those little things that other people might not notice, 359 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,639 the people who it's meant for will 360 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,199 and I think that's really special. 361 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,799 So it was about, "OK, um... 362 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,479 "let's have different coloured tents." 363 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,599 Because if you were visually impaired 364 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,439 or you were blind or nearly blind, 365 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,159 but you could see a bit of colour, 366 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,599 if you had all the tents in one colour, 367 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,279 as a blind person or visually-impaired person, 368 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:51,519 you'd knock into things. 369 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,959 So you'll see there's different tents in different colours 370 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,519 and then there's ribbons round about. 371 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,839 We looked at the access, how to get into the tent, 372 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,759 how to get out, because tents, I don't know if you noticed, 373 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,599 but they have a lip at the bottom. 374 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,479 So if you were in a wheelchair, you couldn't get into it. 375 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,880 So it's all about making the whole thing accessible. 376 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,359 You know what? It looks really beautiful. 377 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,959 I could spend a weekend here. 378 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,119 How nice! Everyone just having a nice little jolly. 379 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,799 It feels really colourful and vibrant. And to see 380 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,039 so many disabled people just living like that, 381 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,799 I'm thinking, "Oh, actually, that could be real." 382 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,039 It's... it's... 383 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,599 ...quite moving, in a way, how happy everybody is as well. 384 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,439 Yeah, what a great place to film. 385 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,359 Just tell me what the hell is going on. 386 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,639 When you're disabled, you know that, with just a few 387 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,079 access requirements put in place, 388 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,319 it makes such a big difference. It means you can turn up 389 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,000 and you can be creatively brilliant. 390 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,719 So when we make our film and TV industry 391 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,959 accessible, we open ourselves up 392 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,440 to lots of very talented people. 393 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,880 Still to come on Doctor Who: Unleashed... 394 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,479 ...we go dancing with the stars... 395 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,759 What's with you and dancing? 396 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,520 I'm telling you, they'll have me on Strictly next. 397 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,719 ...production designer Phil Sims reveals 398 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,759 the inspiration behind the awesome Bone Palace... 399 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,359 There's a lot of bird references in it, 400 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,599 a lot of avian references. 401 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,799 OK, that's interesting. Why did you go bird? 402 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,240 We just thought they looked cool. We just thought... 403 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,239 ...and spoiler alert - we've got an exclusive clip 404 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,640 from the season finale. 405 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,440 But first... 406 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,359 So, every week on Doctor Who: Unleashed, 407 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,319 I do some work experience with a different department 408 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,759 that make Doctor Who happen. And this week 409 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,319 I'm with the script team and with Molly on the script team 410 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,239 and I think their job is actually 411 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,439 one of the most stressful on set. 412 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,319 Why? Let's go find out. 413 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,799 Marker. And... action. 414 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,319 OK, Molly, let's start right at the basics. 415 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,399 Hello. Well, hello. 416 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,519 Yes, that is basic. That's a good basic start. 417 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,439 Hello. Yeah. My manners. Yes. Thank you very much. 418 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,159 Tell me about the script team. What do they do? 419 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,679 What do you do? What's your job title? 420 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,879 My job title is a little bit of a mouthful. 421 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:11,159 OK, that's a good start. Yes. 422 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,839 I am the trainee assistant script supervisor. 423 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,399 Trainee assistant script supervisor. 424 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,959 I am indeed, yeah. It is a bit of a mouthful. 425 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,559 It is, a little bit, yeah. What do they do? 426 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,200 They assist the script supervisors! 427 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,999 Molly assists script supervisor Richard Pask. 428 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,479 Between them, they have some serious responsibilities. 429 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,279 It's their job to keep detailed notes of dialogue, 430 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,599 action, continuity and all the slate 431 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,079 and scene numbers. 432 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,359 On top of all that, during filming, 433 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,879 they have to closely monitor what's happening 434 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,559 to check no dialogue is missed 435 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 and that the movements and the eyelines 436 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,399 of all the actors match, take after take after take. 437 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,079 And what's with the stopwatch? 438 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,999 We help out Production with timings of the day - 439 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,319 when we start, when we finish, when we call for lunch, 440 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,639 how much of the episodes that we've shot already, 441 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,919 like 15 minutes in, 442 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,799 20 minutes in, whether we're overrunning. 443 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,999 So before we start shooting, we have to time the script. 444 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,159 Right. We come up with a guess, 445 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,639 a guesstimate of how long the episode is going to take 446 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,999 and then we try and match that as much as possible. 447 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,519 Occasionally, Molly has to deliver some bad news. 448 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,399 I've seen some of your colleagues go in 449 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:24,079 with scripts in hand, asking for scenes to be redone 450 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,639 so the scripts match the writing. 451 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,879 That's a big part of the job as well. 452 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,519 A big part of the job 453 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,639 is learning when to go in and when not to. 454 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,439 So it's a lot of talking with the director, like, 455 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,279 "Oh, the line maybe changed a little bit here," 456 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,639 or, "Should I go in and change it? 457 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,359 "Should we remind the actors what the line is?" 458 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:43,479 That kind of thing. 459 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,199 And sometimes it's a yes, and sometimes it's a, 460 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,159 "Oh, it doesn't matter." "It's not a big deal." Yeah. 461 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,599 So, were you always interested in drama growing up, 462 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,919 or was it sci-fi that you liked, or what was it? 463 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,759 Well, sir, it was actually a behind-the-scenes episode 464 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,119 of Doctor Who that I watched 465 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,439 when I was a kid. Was it? 466 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,519 "That's what I want to do." 467 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,359 And here you are, behind the scenes of Doctor Who. 468 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:04,639 It's like a real full circle. Exactly. 469 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,519 I bought some books. I read them. 470 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,639 And I was doing lots of running jobs on short films 471 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,319 and I just said, "Hey, can I either shadow," or sometimes, 472 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,879 when they don't have a script supervisor, 473 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,119 like, "Can I give it a go?" Amazing. 474 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,759 So a real self-starter, then, Molly. You were like, 475 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,199 "That's the thing I want to go and do," 476 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,319 did all your own research 477 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,679 and here you are. And here I am, 478 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,079 on Doctor Who, behind the scenes. 479 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,320 That's so brilliant! 480 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Right, time for me to step in 481 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,960 as the assistant to the assistant script supervisor. 482 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,199 As night falls 483 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,719 and rehearsals begin... 484 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,760 SHOUTING 485 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,159 ...Richard and Molly are on hand to liaise with the director 486 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,039 and help the actors double-check their lines. 487 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,279 So if they're getting the lines wrong, 488 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,159 you want to make sure they're getting the lines right 489 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,719 here as well as later. Yeah. 490 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,079 We don't want panic. We don't want panic. 491 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,599 Nobody wants panic. No, no, no. 492 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,199 Let's turn over A and B. 493 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,559 With the cameras about to roll, Molly and I will be monitoring 494 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,519 the action from a small tent side of set. 495 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,319 In-between takes, I listen to what the director's saying 496 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,919 so that I can put down on my notes 497 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,439 if there's anything that he liked or didn't like. 498 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,559 So you're eavesdropping? Yes. All the time. 499 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,839 Eavesdropping! 500 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,399 Everything you hear. 501 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,279 The more information you can put down, the better. 502 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,319 Set and... action. 503 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,759 You recognised your husband's doubt 504 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,559 because you've been expressing doubt yourself. 505 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,919 That's what it does, Mrs Smith. It contaminates. 506 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,639 It breeds. It festers. And it's my job to cut it out. 507 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Doctor! Probably I had doubt! Don't make her ashamed of me! 508 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,920 Tell her I love her! 509 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,560 Take her away. 510 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,560 Missed that line. 511 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,439 Want to come, see if we have time? 512 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,479 Yes, I'll come. 513 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,519 Oh, no... 514 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,679 Come on. 515 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,960 ...time to deliver some bad news. 516 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,559 Back to one, so we go again straight away. Thank you. 517 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:09,839 Er, so, erm, 518 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,319 I'm just passing on notes. 519 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,199 Obviously, I'm just learning. So in your line, can you please 520 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,960 remember to also say, "Look after her"? 521 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,039 So don't forget that line, please. 522 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,039 OK. Thank you very much. 523 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,119 A beautiful performance, though, really moving. 524 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,359 Oh, thank you, thank you. That's not your job. 525 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:27,719 I was just giving you a... 526 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,439 That's actually not our job. We're not allowed to do that. 527 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,599 Am I not? 528 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,759 Shall we go back to the tent? 529 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,399 OK. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 530 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,799 "Just look after her," is that line. 531 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,079 OK, take two. 532 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,599 Doctor! Probably I had doubt! Don't make her ashamed of me! 533 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,280 Look after her! Tell her I love her! 534 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,639 She nailed it words-wise there, though. 535 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,120 Every single word as written. 536 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:55,079 Well done, Vee. Cut, perfect. 537 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,319 Thank you very much, everybody. 538 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,520 Very good work. Anita, V. 539 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,919 Action! Bringing to life the wish world of Conrad's imagination 540 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,119 allowed the production design team to go to town on the sets. 541 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,279 It also got me all excited when I first saw them. 542 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,199 Right, OK. Now, this is a space 543 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,079 that I know of and you know of 544 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:21,919 as Unit headquarters. 545 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,199 It's the ultra-modern, 546 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,479 full-of-jazzy-tech place where 547 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,679 Kate Lethbridge-Stewart, Jemma Redgrave, sort of 548 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,199 runs the show, 549 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,039 but it's been transformed. Oh, wow. 550 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,599 Look how different it looks! Firstly, you can't see this, 551 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,879 but this feels different, because it's springy. 552 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,679 This is a carpet. And before, it was 553 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,319 all, like, super slick. 554 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,599 But look at those! 555 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,639 This is what people used to type on. Not any more. 556 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,679 Obviously, it's been transformed to, like, 557 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,719 mid-20th-century vibes. 558 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,039 Jemma, for you, who spends a lot of the time in this room, 559 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,359 it must be an odd sensation being here 560 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,559 and seeing it look like this. I think it looks magnificent. 561 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,519 Doesn't it look great? Doesn't it look like 562 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,319 an episode of Mad Men? It does, yeah. 563 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,839 Slightly. With a sort of UNIT twist. Absolutely. 564 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,079 I want to know if Jonah's seen these, 565 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,279 because if I was him, I'd be thrilled 566 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,719 and a bit freaked out at the same time. 567 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,039 It's odd seeing you in a suit, though, 568 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,839 not in your big body armour. I know. 569 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,039 I mean, it looks fresh. It does? It does look fresh. 570 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,799 It's the first day, actually, in this. 571 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,479 What did you feel like when you walked in here? 572 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,199 Because this is your home. When you're on set filming, 573 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,119 this is where you spend most of your time. It looks 574 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,319 totally different. Completely different. 575 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879 We walked in this morning. We just did, like, a triple take. 576 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,959 Like, what is going on? Yeah, it's beautiful. 577 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,879 While the retro Unit set evokes 1950s nostalgia, 578 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,879 the Bone Palace is a brilliant 579 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,279 sci-fi meets Gothic horror mashup. 580 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,079 I love this. This is the one set that we've done 581 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,839 where it's been entirely sculpted. 582 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,879 So we've had a brilliant team of sculptors... 583 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,599 It's so clever... ..transforming it into a bony palace. 584 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,119 There's a lot of bird references in it, 585 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,559 a lot of avian references. 586 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,479 OK. That's interesting. Why did you go bird? 587 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,919 We just thought they looked cool. 588 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,399 We just thought they looked great. 589 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,519 There's lots of sort of beaks and bird skulls. 590 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,799 And, actually, you know, we looked at ostrich bones, 591 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,359 ostrich feet, and that's kind of where these feet came from 592 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,759 at the base of the pillars in the Bone Palace. 593 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,319 That's very clever, isn't it? Yeah. 594 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,119 Get rid of the wife. 595 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,919 I mean, it was epic. You know, 596 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,519 the attention to detail, to the different bones that they used 597 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,239 to create the structure, it was just beautiful. 598 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,079 It was beautiful, but also very, very creepy. 599 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,639 It feels like you're in a dead animal. 600 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,639 SHE SHOUTS 601 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,199 But then there's this massive disco ball 602 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,919 that was also there! 603 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,280 Wait, did someone say disco ball? 604 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,879 Do you want to work some magic? Oh, yeah. Watch this. 605 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,279 Do some magic. Alan, can you turn on the disco ball, please? 606 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,919 Oh! STEFFAN GASPS 607 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,119 Oh, my... 608 00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:50,919 You have the power in your hands. 609 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,719 In my hands. Doesn't it look good? 610 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,679 That is cool. Is that the coolest thing we've done 611 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,479 on Unleashed in nearly two series' worth? Maybe. 612 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,599 Definitely during my interviews. 613 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,680 Saturday Night Femur, anyone? 614 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,559 Music! 615 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,679 Towards the end of the episode, John Smith and the Rani 616 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,959 link up for a dance 617 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,599 for old times' sake. 618 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,039 We danced once upon a time. you and I, 619 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,439 at the siege of Persephone. 620 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,559 This feels like a bit of deja vu for the 15th Doctor. 621 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:19,919 What's with you and dancing now? 622 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,440 I know. 623 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,759 I'm telling you, 624 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,199 they'll have me on Strictly next. 625 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,599 Not for the first time, Ncuti had to 626 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 dust off his dancing shoes and cut some rug. 627 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,719 Two Time Lords meeting again in the middle of a waltz... 628 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,039 ...as you do, 629 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,199 just so calm. It was brilliant. 630 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,039 Brilliant. What a brilliant baddie. 631 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,199 So you've ticked off, now, you've done 632 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,199 your '60s dancing, you've now waltzed. 633 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,959 We've now waltzed. 634 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,039 So you're nearly on the whole Strictly line-up there. 635 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,439 You've danced with a Strictly judge. 636 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,719 I know, I know. 637 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,159 Just a trend here. I'm just saying. 638 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,359 It's a trend. 639 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,319 It's a trend. It's a trend. 640 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,559 Choreographer Jack Murphy, 641 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,399 who we met in last season's The Devil's Chord 642 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,879 and Rogue, is back to make sure 643 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,679 Ncuti and Archie's waltz stays in step. 644 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,799 You're here again, 645 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,279 doing another dance in Doctor Who. Can't get enough of it. 646 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,119 What a pleasure. What a privilege. 647 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:23,079 It's more intimate than the work you've done 648 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,359 on the series, I suppose. 649 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:26,359 So how does that change your work, 650 00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:28,519 rather than doing one of those big numbers 651 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,319 or the Bridgerton-style stuff? 652 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,159 This is really what my career's based on, 653 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,839 because primarily I've worked on plays. 654 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,879 This is taking me home, really. 655 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,479 So I'm very, very... Busman's holiday for you. 656 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,599 It is a busman's holiday, 657 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,079 if you want to put that away, Steffan, yes. 658 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,799 But I'm very happy to ride that bus. 659 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,479 Absolutely! 660 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,399 Jack Murphy's such a character. 661 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,639 He just... You know, he understands dance, 662 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,599 but he also understands performances. 663 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,919 And so what was really helpful in having him 664 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,559 was doing the dialogue and the dance. 665 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,959 And he told me how impossible it was 666 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,119 and it was a little bit this, 667 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,919 but I did get to spend some time with... 668 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080 Yeah, he was humouring me. 669 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:08,879 That was hard. I mean, harder for Archie. 670 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,319 Archie had that long speech to do, 671 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,759 was listening to the music as well 672 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,079 at the top of the dance. 673 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,239 Because I'm still John Smith at this point, 674 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,919 so he doesn't really know what he's doing. 675 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,319 So she was leading in six-inch heels while giving a speech 676 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,319 whilst also listening to music. It was... 677 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,279 And she smashed it. 678 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,679 People said we were lovers. 679 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,199 Can you remember? 680 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,399 What Archie Panjabi's doing at the moment is 681 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,039 unbelievably difficult. Until you've tried it, 682 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,559 you wouldn't know. I mean, if you're at home, 683 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,319 try dancing and talking at the same time. And it's actually 684 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,919 quite hard, isn't it? Ohhh! Well, yes. 685 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,559 Yes, yes, yes, yes! This is why you've been able 686 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,359 to have a career, Jack, because you've got to teach people 687 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,319 to do it. And have to find a way of expressly doing it, 688 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,999 you know, find the quickest way of doing it, 689 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,159 because you kind of... It's all about repetition. 690 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,959 And is the idea that the dance becomes second nature, then? 691 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,959 Totally. So that they're not even thinking about it. 692 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,999 It becomes kinaesthetic. It's in the muscle memory. 693 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,399 It's a drama. Mm-hm. 694 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,359 It's not a dance show, so I mustn't indulge 695 00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,279 in where I would like to take it. 696 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Less swizzling. 697 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,319 Yeah. And I have to kind of then go, 698 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,199 "Ooh, I'm not going to be judged on 699 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,439 "the fact that, actually, there's a simplicity to it." Yes. 700 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,840 We should go again, guys. Sorry! 701 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,000 In the Doctor Who Season Two finale... 702 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,719 OK. Let's repeat chapter one. 703 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,759 Is it working? 704 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320 We need to move a little faster. 705 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,879 Sweet little Desidirium. If only you were older, 706 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,599 you could imagine such complicated things. 707 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,640 Instead... I've got you.